Re: Out of Control - the blurring of man-made vs. life

Jan Hardenbergh (jch@NELL.OKI.COM)
Thu, 9 Mar 1995 09:20:00 E


Wildly edited
> > message in Kevin Kelly's book _Out of Control_. The following URL
> > http://www.hotwired.com/Staff/kevin/oocontrolpress.html is in my
> > top 7 with Principia Cybernetica. Here is the first paragraph:
..
> > The nine laws of god are on the web page. They are rules for making
> > complex systems (my description of the laws).
..
> And on this we will build a cybernetic theory?

Mea culpa. Being just a layperson on this list, I thought it would be
interesting
for others on the list since it covered so many of the same issues. It is
not
a scientific book, but a cornucopia of research and technologies used
to support his thesis. I found it quite profound.

> > I have nothing to gain by pushing Out of Control, I just think that
> > it speaks to many of the issues of the PCP. I've even convinced my
> > minister (UU) to give a sermon on these nine laws of god.
> I have to agree (but with a caveat). If one is going to chose a single
> source to cover the new "complexity" craze in lay terms, this is
> probably more comprehensive than waldrop or levy or lewis.
> It also touches some deeper stuff now and then. I don't think you can
> base any of your work on it though.

I'm just a computer graphics geek, pagan, sunday school teaching, dad
who has been influenced by the book. However, if I get pulled into writing
"intelligent agents" using Telescript or Safe-Tcl, I would go back to
"the nine laws of god" and think about them seriously.

> It also is too glib in places (aren't we all?)

Geez, I do not even know what glib means! :-)

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