Principia Cybernetica Mailing-List Archive by thread
Starting: Tue May 10 1994 - 14:56:15 BST
Ending: Tue Aug 03 1999 - 14:33:39 BST
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- Re: encyclopedia descriptions Francis Heylighen
- Fw: BIOSIGNAL 2000 Conference Vsevolod V. Shakin
- Principia Cybernetica News - May/June 1999 Francis Heylighen
- EUROPEAN UNION AND THE COMMON GOOD Claude Rochet
- EUROPEAN UNION AND THE COMMON GOOD Claude Rochet
- Thanks! Don Mikulecky
- Categorical System Theory Don Mikulecky
- on the definition of "hardware" and "software" Don Mikulecky
- [Fwd: [Fwd: fallacy in Rosen's arguments is a straw man]] Don Mikulecky
- Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: fallacy in Rosen's arguments is a ???????]] Don Mikulecky
- Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: fallacy in Rosen's arguments is a ???????]] Jerry LR Chandler
- Re: Constructability of AI Bruce Edmonds
- Re: Constructability of AI Alexei Sharov
- Re: Constructability of AI Bruce Edmonds
- My review of Rosen's new book is posted. Don Mikulecky
- Re: Constructability of AI Alexei Sharov
- Re: Constructability of AI Bruce Edmonds
- Re: Constructability of AI Alexei Sharov
- New CPM Report: The Constructability of Artificial Intelligence Bruce Edmonds
- Ashby and Heylighen books free for downloading! Francis Heylighen
- the machine/organism duality and practical considerartions Don Mikulecky
- open systems (thermodynamically) and complexity :genericity Don Mikulecky
- Flaws in Rosen's Philosophy (re-sent) Jerry LR Chandler
- [Fwd: [Fwd: The physics of open systems:insight from Rosen's Don Mikulecky
- A small correction Norman K. McPhail
- Re: The physics of open systems:insight from Rosen's last book Cliff Joslyn
- The physics of open systems:insight from Rosen's last book Don Mikulecky
- NPR's report on the cosmology conference Don Mikulecky
- Introductory Teaching Materials Jason Foster
- "real" vs "formal" systems Don Mikulecky
- Principia Cybernetica News - March/April 1999 Francis Heylighen
- Its about Time again Gavin Ritz
- [COMPLEX-M] Fw: URGENT WARNING henry cohen
- off untill May 10 Vsevolod V. Shakin
- ISSS paper is posted Don Mikulecky
- Where to publish PRNCYB-related papers-CORRECTION Francis Heylighen
- Where to publish PRNCYB-related papers Francis Heylighen
- Re: Determinism John J. Kineman
- [Fwd: sequel to Life Itself?] Don Mikulecky
- Time Gavin Ritz
- Re: Determinism John J. Kineman
- Paper for Comment: The Pragmatic Roots of Context Bruce Edmonds
- Determinism Mario Vaneechoutte
- 4th European Congress on Systems Science (fwd) Francis Heylighen
- Re: Is all self-organisation evolutionary? John J. Kineman
- Searle's review of Kurzweil's "The age of spiritual machines" Don Mikulecky
- THE INFINITY: TRAGIC MISTAKE OF GREAT G.CANTOR. Alexander Zenkin
- where is kinetic energy ? henry cohen
- More thoughts on self-organization and evolution Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Is all self-organisation evolutionary? John J. Kineman
- Re: selection and choice vs bifurcation John J. Kineman
- Re: Is all self-organisation evolutionary? Francis Heylighen
- A subversive proposal for the selection of academic papers Bruce Edmonds
- Re: selection and choice vs bifurcation Francis Heylighen
- selection and choice vs bifurcation Don Mikulecky
- Re: Is all self-organisation evolutionary? Francis Heylighen
- Re: Is all self-organisation evolutionary? John J. Kineman
- Re: Is all self-organisation evolutionary? Francis Heylighen
- Re: Is all self-organisation evolutionary? John J. Kineman
- Re: Is all self-organisation evolutionary? Francis Heylighen
- Is all self-organisation evolutionary? Bruce Edmonds
- ISSS Meeting Invitation (fwd) Francis Heylighen
- Principia Cybernetica News - Jan/Feb 1999 Francis Heylighen
- Re: [HM] Aristotle's "Infinitum Actu Non Datur" Thesis Alexander Zenkin
- [Fwd: A Question...] Don Mikulecky
- New web journal on entropy and information studies: Entropy Bruce Edmonds
- Re: As to Aristotel's "Infinitum Actu Non Datur" Thesis Alexander Zenkin
- Re: Rosen's concept of time and complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: Rosen's concept of time and complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: Rosen's concept of time and complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: The rock John J. Kineman
- Re: Rosen's concept of time and complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: The rock Norman K. McPhail
- Re: The rock John J. Kineman
- Re: [Fwd: ISSS meeting in June.....Draft of Abstract] John J. Kineman
- Re: Rosen's concept of time and complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: CONFERENCE Alexander Zenkin
- Re: Rosen's concept of time and complexity John J. Kineman
- Progress Luis Rocha
- Cfp: Special session on Emotions and Intelligent Systems at Ricardo Ribeiro Gudwin
- [Fwd: ISSS meeting in June.....Draft of Abstract] Don Mikulecky
- Re: Can we agree on what a machine is? [fwd for P. Garrido] Francis Heylighen
- Re: Rosen's def => A car is not a machine ! John J. Kineman
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Reda Benkirane
- Re: machines Don Mikulecky
- Re: machines Gary Boyd
- Rosen's def => A car is not a machine ! Bruce Edmonds
- Rosen's definition of a machine Don Mikulecky
- Some ideas apropos George Berkeley and modern science. Alexander Zenkin
- machine definition attached...sorry! Don Mikulecky
- Can we agree on what a machine is? Don Mikulecky
- Re: Fw: Math Problem TJ Skipp
- Fw: Maths Problem - really good Vsevolod V. Shakin
- Re: Humanity 3000 John J. Kineman
- Re: Humanity 3000 Gary Boyd
- Re: Humanity 3000 (fwd for C. Mesjasz) Gavin Ritz
- Re: Humanity 3000 (fwd for C. Mesjasz) Norman K. McPhail
- Re: Humanity 3000 (fwd for C. Mesjasz) Francis Heylighen
- New forum for interdisciplinary articles [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: ISSS abstract deadline extended John J. Kineman
- POSITION OPENING, Director, Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Humanity 3000 John J. Kineman
- Re: Humanity 3000 Participant Statement John J. Kineman
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Norman K. McPhail
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Attila Csanyi, Ph.D.
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Norman K. McPhail
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Norman K. McPhail
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Norman K. McPhail
- Re: Humanity 3000 critical factor COSMOLOGY Mario Vaneechoutte
- Re: Humanity 3000 critical factor COSMOLOGY Francis Heylighen
- Re: Humanity 3000 critical factor COSMOLOGY Gary Boyd
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Gary Boyd
- Re: Humanity 3000 Francis Heylighen
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate John J. Kineman
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Don Mikulecky
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Don Mikulecky
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Tom Abel
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate John J. Kineman
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Don Mikulecky
- Re: Humanity 3000 Debate Norman K. McPhail
- Humanity 3000 Tom Abel
- Principia Cybernetica News - Nov/Dec 1998 Francis Heylighen
- Comments on my Humanity 3000 statement Francis Heylighen
- Humanity 3000 Participant Statement Francis Heylighen
- New Complete Issue JoM-EMIT: Vol 2 Issue 1 (Dec 1998) Bruce Edmonds
- [Fwd: Message from David Rosen]Sorry to be the conveyer of such Don Mikulecky
- Occam's razor Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Comments on John's suggestions John J. Kineman
- Comments on John's suggestions Jerry LR Chandler
- Re: listserver problems John J. Kineman
- CFP: 7IASS-1999 "Sign Processes in Complex Systems" [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution;remember Feyerabend! Don Mikulecky
- Re: listserver problems John J. Kineman
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution John J. Kineman
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution John J. Kineman
- listserver problems John J. Kineman
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution John J. Kineman
- Physical and Non Physical differences Norman K. McPhail
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution John J. Kineman
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution;remember Feyerabend! John J. Kineman
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution John J. Kineman
- Group Support Systems -- Informatica CFP [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution;remember Feyerabend! Don Mikulecky
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution John J. Kineman
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution John J. Kineman
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution John J. Kineman
- New member: Alexander Zenkin Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Yonggin Quah Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution John J. Kineman
- NLP and cybernetics (was re - Principia Cybernetica News) Laurence.Millar@vuw.ac.nz
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution Francis Heylighen
- unsubscribe Arthur Jackson
- unsubscribe Arthur Jackson
- unsubscribe Arthur Jackson
- unsubscribe Arthur Jackson
- unsubscribe Arthur Jackson
- unsubscribe Arthur Jackson
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution Francis Heylighen
- The measurement 'problem' Bruce Edmonds
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution -- from Stan Salthe Luis Rocha
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution (fwd) Norman K. McPhail
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution Francis Heylighen
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Memes, genes and evolution Norman Johnson
- Memes, genes and evolution Luis Rocha
- Re: Principia Cybernetica News Gavin Ritz
- Principia Cybernetica News - Sep/Oct 1998 Francis Heylighen
- The Brain Application Luis Rocha
- Re: "The Nature of Order" by Christopher Alexander Cliff Joslyn
- "The Nature of Order" by Christopher Alexander Bruce Edmonds
- CFP: Symp. on Imitation in Animals and Artifacts Bruce Edmonds
- The Tree of Knowledge, a course by Maturana & Goodwin [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Final CFP: special issue on Socially Situated Intelligence and Bruce Edmonds
- New member: Igor Tsigenly Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Reuben Wright Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Rick Tan Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Tom Vest Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Hugo Witters Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Ulrich Kramer Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Xaq Pitkow Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Laurence Millar Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Life (comments on Mario's paper) Don Mikulecky
- Re: Life (comments on Mario's paper) Don Mikulecky
- Re: Life (comments on Mario's paper) Alexei Sharov
- Re: Life (comments on Mario's paper) Mario Vaneechoutte
- Re: Life (comments on Mario's paper) Alexei Sharov
- The WWW archive is working again! Bruce Edmonds
- Another archive test message... Bruce Edmonds
- Archive test message Bruce Edmonds
- Re: ecological complexity Mario Vaneechoutte
- Re: ecological complexity Norman K. McPhail
- Re: ecological complexity Norman K. McPhail
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: Itches. Was Re: Back to free will John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: Back to free will John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity Alexei Sharov
- Re: ecological complexity Mario Vaneechoutte
- Re: ecological complexity Alexei Sharov
- Back to free will Ricardo Ribeiro Gudwin
- Re: ecological complexity Mario Vaneechoutte
- Re: A question for all! (a quick aside) Francis Heylighen
- survival = ultimate good Alexei Sharov
- Re: Another writeup for PCP John J. Kineman
- Re: Relating theoretical foundations Don Mikulecky
- Re: Relating theoretical foundations John J. Kineman
- Re: A complex TV set John J. Kineman
- Re: A complex TV set Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Holistic World and Complexity John J. Kineman
- The Evil of information technology Cliff Joslyn
- Re: making complex systems a la Rosen Cliff Joslyn
- Re: The Evil of information technology Willard Van De Bogart
- Re: Holistic World and Complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: Holistic World and Complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: Holistic World and Complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: Holistic World and Complexity John J. Kineman
- CFP: Socially Situated Intelligence and Organisations Bruce Edmonds
- Another writeup for PCP Cliff Joslyn
- circuit theory is not reality Don Mikulecky
- A complex TV set Don Mikulecky
- Re: Holistic World and Complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: making complex systems ala Rosen John J. Kineman
- Holistic World and Complexity Ricardo Ribeiro Gudwin
- Re: making complex systems a la Rosen John J. Kineman
- Re: making complex systems a la Rosen Don Mikulecky
- Re: making complex systems a la Rosen Dr. Gary Boyd
- Re: making complex systems a la Rosen John J. Kineman
- Re: making complex systems a la Rosen Ricardo Ribeiro Gudwin
- Re: making complex systems a la Rosen Dr. Gary Boyd
- Re: making complex systems ala Rosen John J. Kineman
- Re: making complex systems ala Rosen John J. Kineman
- making complex systems ala Rosen Don Mikulecky
- Re: [Fwd: Taped Interview with Robert Rosen] John J. Kineman
- Re: [Fwd: Taped Interview with Robert Rosen] John J. Kineman
- [Fwd: Taped Interview with Robert Rosen] Don Mikulecky
- Taped Interview with Robert Rosen Don Mikulecky
- Re: Ashby's law of requisite variety & Shannon's tenth Theorem Dr. Gary Boyd
- Re: Ashby's law of requisite variety Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Ashby's law of requisite variety Len Troncale
- Re: What we MEAN when we say "complexity" Cliff Joslyn
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity Don Mikulecky
- Re: ecological complexity Don Mikulecky
- Re: What we MEAN when we say "complexity" Czeslaw Mesjasz
- Re: ecological complexity Don Mikulecky
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- What we MEAN when we say "complexity" Cliff Joslyn
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: What we MEAN when we say "complexity" John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity Don Mikulecky
- Re: ecological complexity Norman K. McPhail
- Re: ecological complexity Don Mikulecky
- Re: ecological complexity Norman K. McPhail
- Re: ecological complexity Don Mikulecky
- Re: ecological complexity Norman K. McPhail
- Re: Ontological Synthesis John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity Norman K. McPhail
- Re: ecological complexity Don Mikulecky
- Re: ecological complexity Norman K. McPhail
- Re: ecological complexity Norman K. McPhail
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity Alexei Sharov
- Re: ecological complexity Don Mikulecky
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity Alexei Sharov
- Re: ecological complexity Bruce Edmonds
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity Alexei Sharov
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Re: ecological complexity John J. Kineman
- Principia Cybernetica News - May/June 1998 Francis Heylighen
- Re: Ashby's l;aw of requisite variety Francis Heylighen
- Contents of: JoM-EMIT vol 2 issue 1 Bruce Edmonds
- On studying Rosen Don Mikulecky
- Rosen & Non Physical Experience Alexei Sharov
- Re: Collaborative documents via HyperNews John J. Kineman
- Re: Non Physical Experience John J. Kineman
- Re: Non Physical Experience John J. Kineman
- Re: Non Physical Experience John J. Kineman
- Re: Natural and Non-Natural John J. Kineman
- Natural and Non-Natural Boris Steipe
- Re: Non Physical Experience John J. Kineman
- Re: Reducionism, Hollism and Complexity Sascha Ignjatovic
- [Fwd: Non Physical Experience] Don Mikulecky
- Experience, awareness, consciousness, ... Mario Vaneechoutte
- Re: Will and free will. Was Re: Non Physical Experience Dr. Gary Boyd
- Re: Reducionism, Hollism and Complexity Dr. Gary Boyd
- Reducionism, Hollism and Complexity Ricardo Ribeiro Gudwin
- Re: Non Physical Experience Sascha Ignjatovic
- Re: Non Physical Experience Sascha Ignjatovic
- Non Physical Experience Walter Fritz
- Non Physical Experience Walter Fritz
- Re: Non Physical Experience Dr. Gary Boyd
- Non Physical Experience Walter Fritz
- Re: Non Physical Experience Sascha Ignjatovic
- Re: Non Physical Experience Sascha Ignjatovic
- Re: Non Physical Experience adition ! Sascha Ignjatovic
- Re: Non Physical Experience Sascha Ignjatovic
- Re: Non Physical Experience John J. Kineman
- Re: Non Physical Experience John J. Kineman
- Re: Non Physical Experience Re: Non Physical Experience Walter Fritz
- Re: Non Physical Experience John J. Kineman
- Cybernetics99 (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- new website at http://www.unizar.es/sociocybernetics Felix Geyer
- 1998 European Systems School [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- New PCP papers available Francis Heylighen
- Conf.- Closure: Emergent Organizations & Dynamics [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: Non Physical Experience John J. Kineman
- Non Physical Experience Norman K. McPhail
- umwelt Walter Fritz
- Re: umwelt John J. Kineman
- pask/agree to disagree Arno L. Goudsmit
- umwelt Arno L. Goudsmit
- Robot vs. human slaves Cliff Joslyn
- mind and body Walter Fritz
- Webmind project [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Umwelt , Environment, Ecoment? Jerry LR Chandler
- Re: mind and body John J. Kineman
- Re: mind and body John J. Kineman
- semantic closure and open-ended evolution Alexei Sharov
- Re: mind and body Cliff Joslyn
- mind and body Walter Fritz
- VWSIM 99 CALL FOR PAPERS (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Attila Csanyi Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Alexander Brown Cliff Joslyn
- New memberL Norman McPhail Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Brian Dolan Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Eduardo Blasina Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Prof. Jan Sarnovsky Cliff Joslyn
- New Journal: Emergence [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- test, please ignore Arno L. Goudsmit
- Comments please: Capturing Social Embeddedness - a constructivist Bruce Edmonds
- Principia Cybernetica News - March/April 1998 Francis Heylighen
- Re: causation John J. Kineman
- causation John J. Kineman
- CFP: Socially Situated Intelligence Bruce Edmonds
- Viable Systems Methodology (no name)
- Conf: THE EVOLUTION OF LANGUAGE [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- CFP: Emergent Properties of Complex Systems [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- New Book: The Evolutionary Trajectory, by R. Coren [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Tentative program, WG on Sociocybernetics, Montreal, July 1 Felix Geyer
- Membership form and questionnaire, WG01 Felix Geyer
- Working Group on Sociocybernetics, Int'l Sociological Ass'n Felix Geyer
- information sheet, WG01 and ISA Felix Geyer
- Principia Cybernetica News - Jan/Feb 1998 Francis Heylighen
- Re: Selectionism and the 2nd Law [fwd] John J. Kineman
- Selectionism and the 2nd Law [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- ARS Electronica Festival 98 [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: attraction Francis Heylighen
- Re: attraction John J. Kineman
- attraction, without accents Henry COHEN
- attraction Henry COHEN
- two questions Henry COHEN
- CFP: Chaos Theory in Psychology & Life Sciences [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: What discipline is this? Francis Heylighen
- Re: Thought problem - comments John J. Kineman
- What discipline is this? John J. Kineman
- Re: epistemology & will John J. Kineman
- CFP: Semiotics of Autonomous Information Systems Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Bob Watson Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Richard Coren Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Jack Martinelli Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Joanne Doyle Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Yuri Demchenko Cliff Joslyn
- WESSconference VI Abstracts Feb. 15, 1998 (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- Principia Cybernetica News - Nov/Dec 1997 Francis Heylighen
- Re: epistemology Alexei Sharov
- Re: epistemology - a thought exercise Jixuan Hu
- CFP: Semiotics and Autonomous Information Systems [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- New journal - Journal of Complex Systems [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- CFP: Symposium on Memetics (Namur, August 1998) Francis Heylighen
- Emergent Computation and Intelligent Manufacturing Systems Luis Rocha
- PCP server crash -> lost files Francis Heylighen
- Re: "The Phenomenon of Science" Alexei Sharov
- Re: "The Phenomenon of Science" Francis Heylighen
- Re: "The Phenomenon of Science" Alexei Sharov
- Re: "The Phenomenon of Science" book now on PCP Web! Cliff Joslyn
- thinking with words Walter Fritz
- Re: "The Phenomenon of Science" book now on PCP Web! Alexei Sharov
- New member: Wayne Lu Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Georg Boomgaarden Cliff Joslyn
- New member: James E de Jarnette Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Mark Crosby Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Marco Schmidt Cliff Joslyn
- CFP: congress on discovery and creativity [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- thinking with words Walter Fritz
- Re: "The Phenomenon of Science" book now on PCP Web! Cliff Joslyn
- Archive Server is Down Bruce Edmonds
- thinking and words Walter Fritz
- axioms to AI and ? Jon P. McGoey
- thinking and words Walter Fritz
- thinking and words Walter Fritz
- Some help, please, shopping for a conference. . . Cliff Joslyn
- [Fwd: The Basics of Free Will] mikuleck
- A relational approach to free will mikuleck
- Re: The Basics of Free Will Francis Heylighen
- Free Will [from Arno Goudsmit] Francis Heylighen
- Free Will Tom Abel
- Re: The Basics of Free Will Nathanael T Lauster
- The Basics of Free Will Bruce Edmonds
- [Fwd: Free will] mikuleck
- [Fwd: Free will] mikuleck
- Sorry! PRNCYB-L archive has missed some "Free Will" posts Bruce Edmonds
- Free will Walter Fritz
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- Contribution on MSTT by L.T. Miller Francis Heylighen
- Principia Cybernetica News - July/August 1997 Francis Heylighen
- [Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail] mikuleck
- test mikuleck
- New member: Mick Ashby Cliff Joslyn
- New memberL Walter Fritz Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Steve Smith Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Roger Michaels Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Arthur Jackson Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Julian Plana Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Alexi Sharov Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Daniel Lundquist Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Alexander Apartsin Cliff Joslyn
- Dynamics of systems John J. Kineman
- New website for "Autevolution" paper John J. Kineman
- Quantity, quality Henry COHEN
- CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT ANZSYS-97 (fwd) E. Andres Garcia
- Complexity and Management Mail list (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- Dynamics of systems Henry COHEN
- Dynamics of systems Henry COHEN
- Principia Cybernetica News - May/June 1997 Francis Heylighen
- 7th Conf. CHAOS THEORY IN PSYCHOLOGY & LIFE SCIENCES [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- new member french text without accents Henry COHEN
- [Fwd: JCMC's newest issue is out!] Cliff Joslyn
- Henry Cohen, text without accents Henry COHEN
- New member: Walter Dejonghe Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Henry Cohen Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Edwin L. Holton Cliff Joslyn
- Announcement & CFP: Journal of Memetics Francis Heylighen
- [Fwd: CFP: Intl Autopoiesis Symposium] Cliff Joslyn
- CFP: INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS AND SEMIOTICS `97 [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Intl. Symposium on Autopoiesis in Brazil [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- WESSLuncheon Paper, May 21, 1997, Ms. Deborah V. Doung (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- Connection between USA and the PCP server is restored! Francis Heylighen
- Parsimony and non-scientific truth Dan Parker
- Re: difficulty with pespmc1.vub.ac.be/ Francis Heylighen
- Paper on Autevolution - reviews requested John J. Kineman
- Publication on "Autevolution" John J. Kineman
- CFP: Applied Epistemology - online journal Francis Heylighen
- Principia Cybernetica News - March-April 1997 Francis Heylighen
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- Sociocybernetics sessions at 1998 World Congress of Sociology Felix Geyer
- New book on sociocybernetics Felix Geyer
- New member: Reda Benkirane Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Nathan Lauster Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Philippe Egret Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Gavin Ritz Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Jae S. Choi Cliff Joslyn
- New member: John Zavacki Cliff Joslyn
- New member: John Jay Kineman Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Claude Rochet Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Vsevolod Shakin Cliff Joslyn
- Discussion list on Context Bruce Edmonds
- Re: [Fwd: Rejected posting to PRNCYB-L@BINGVMB] Bruce Edmonds
- The Spirit in the Machine Dan Parker
- Re: Discussion: Complexity and Scientific Modelling Bruce Edmonds
- F. Heylighen absent until April 28 Francis Heylighen
- New PCP papers Francis Heylighen
- Re Discussion: Complexity and Scientific Modelling Bruce Buchanan
- Discussion paper announcement: Complexity and Scientific Bruce Edmonds
- Ivan Havel on Transdisciplinarity [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- CFP: Complexity & information-theoretic approaches to biology Francis Heylighen
- Reply to John Kineman on submitting PCP nodes Francis Heylighen
- Int. Conference on COMPLEX SYSTEMS [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- CFP: Chaos Theory in Psychology & Life Sciences [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Modelling and the identification of noise Bruce Buchanan
- Principia Cybernetica News - January/February 1997 Francis Heylighen
- "Re: SCI`97 / ISAS`97" The Filter of bruce@alpheratz
- "The Macroscope", a book on social & biological systems now on Francis Heylighen
- Modelling and the identification of noise Bruce Edmonds
- The first item is published ... Bruce Edmonds
- "changed www adress Hans-Cees Speel" The Filter of bruce@alpheratz
- Re: Requisite Variety Francis Heylighen
- Re: Requisite Variety Paul L. Moses
- Re: Requisite Variety Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Requisite Variety Cliff Joslyn
- CFP: Complexity Theory & Organizations [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: Requisite Variety Paul L. Moses
- Membership form and questionnaire, WG01 (see circular email) Felix Geyer
- Working Group on Sociocybernetics, Int'l Sociological Ass'n Felix Geyer
- Update on SSIE WWW pages Luis Rocha
- Re: Systems theories Tom Abel
- Re: Systems theories Francis Heylighen
- Another accolade for PCP Web Francis Heylighen
- Re: Requisite Variety Paul L. Moses
- Requisite Variety Dan Parker
- Complexity and Evolution articles by McShea Bruce Edmonds
- Re: Books on Ashby's Law of Requisite variety? E. Andres Garcia
- new book on Systems Theory [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Books on Ashby's Law of Requisite variety? Francis Heylighen
- Rosen Ref Bruce Edmonds
- Metaphysics of Technology, CFP [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- New member: Ricardo Gudwin Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Dwight Bell Cliff Joslyn
- A note from New Mexico on my new coordinates Cliff Joslyn
- John Earls on a Superbrain model of Andean communities Francis Heylighen
- New member: Christopher Robinson Cliff Joslyn
- Principia Cybernetica News - November/December 1996 Francis Heylighen
- Testing PRNCYB-L Francis Heylighen
- Re: analytic and synthetic Cliff Joslyn
- Re: "Re: "Re: "rosen and life itself.""" DON MIKULECKY
- analytic and synthetic Jeff Prideaux
- Cortex, or, "what was that?!" Rick
- CFP: 14th Int. Sustainable Development Conference [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- CFP: American Society for Cybernetics Meeting [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- "Re: "Re: "rosen and life itself.""" The Filter of bruce@alpheratz
- "the pope and evolution" The Filter of bruce@alpheratz
- ""rosen and evolution" The Filter of bruce@alpheratz
- Sorry! I forwarded the question without the answer. (About DON MIKULECKY
- Re: A hint on discussion about "complexity" Czeslaw Mesjasz
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- this was an attempt to say it simply....may I share it to see if DON MIKULECKY
- Re: "Re: "Re: "rosen and life itself.""" DON MIKULECKY
- Funded PhD studentship in applying logic tools for modelling Bruce Edmonds
- "Re: "Re: "rosen and life itself.""" The Filter of bruce@alpheratz
- Re: A hint on discussion about "complexity" DON MIKULECKY
- The Filter of bruce@alpheratz Bruce Edmonds
- "rosen and life itself." The Filter of bruce@alpheratz
- [Fwd: test] Bruce Edmonds
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- A "Systems University on the Net" project asks your comments Francis Heylighen
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- Re: super-systems DON MIKULECKY
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- Super-organisms as analogies or metaphors? Francis Heylighen
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- Re. re. meta-system 'properties' Brown, Alex
- meta-system 'properties' Brown, Alex
- pcp postings DON MIKULECKY
- Re: super-systems DON MIKULECKY
- Re: super-systems mario.vaneechoutte@RUG.AC.BE
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- GET FILES Brown, Alex
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- Principia Cybernetica News - July/August 1996 Francis Heylighen
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- [Fwd: A Useful Conference] - Hans Speel Bruce Edmonds
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- [Fwd: at home in the universe] - Hans Bruce Edmonds
- Development aid as "stimulated self-organization"? Francis Heylighen
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- Yet anther test Cliff Joslyn
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- Re: Master thesis on collective intelligence within the web Francis Heylighen
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- Fwd: [Re: Stances] from Ed Stutsman Bruce Edmonds
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- Stances Bruce Edmonds
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- Experimental North American mirror for PCP-Web Francis Heylighen
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- In Memoriam: Donald T. Campbell Francis Heylighen
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- Comments from Hans Cees about path dependence Jeff Prideaux
- Re. Dialogue, please! Boris G Freesman, Q.C.
- some comments on path dependence Jeff Prideaux
- Re: Dialogue, please! Paul L. Moses
- Dialogue, please! Boris G Freesman, Q.C.
- Re: Re. Hierarchies. Again! Paul L. Moses
- Re: Re. Hierarchies. Again! Paul L. Moses
- path dependency Bruce Edmonds
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- 1997 Cyberfest at U of Illinois (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- Expanded Dictionary of Cybernetics and Systems on the Web! Francis Heylighen
- Gordon Pask - In Memoriam (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- Information please: Baden-Baden conference? Cliff Joslyn
- Pask Obit Cliff Joslyn
- Conference proceedings "Commerce, Complexity & Evolution" Steve.Keen@UNSW.EDU.AU
- [Fwd: Re: Hierarchies. Again!] Bruce Edmonds
- Re. Hierarchies. Again! Boris G Freesman, Q.C.
- [Fwd: Re: Hierarchies. Again!] Bruce Edmonds
- Hierarchies. Again! Boris G Freesman, Q.C.
- New member: John McGoey Cliff Joslyn
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- Some fun: a recent PRNCYB-L error message Cliff Joslyn
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- [Fwd: Re: The Growth of Structural and Functional Complexity Bruce Edmonds
- Preprints available on complexity DON MIKULECKY
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- Re: Discussion on self-organizing graphs Jerry_LR_Chandler
- Principia Cybernetica News - Jan/Feb 1996 Francis Heylighen
- complexity home page DON MIKULECKY
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- wrong address Luis Rocha
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- Final resolution of some Rosen math questions? Cliff Joslyn
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- AIS Reminder Notice II Cliff Joslyn
- Discussion Paper Announcement: Pragmatic Holism Bruce Edmonds
- CFP: Language Origins Society, July 11-15, Maryland [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- CFP: The Quest for a Unified Theory of Information [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- The Growth of Structural and Functional Complexity during Bruce Edmonds
- WESS conference on General Evolutionary Systems [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Papers available on Complexity Evolution & Semantic Webs Francis Heylighen
- [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: teleonomic, teric, etc]]/long one] Bruce Edmonds
- [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: teleonomic, teric, etc]]] Bruce Edmonds
- [Fwd: (Fwd) Re: [Fwd: teleonomic, teric, etc]] Bruce Edmonds
- Re: [Fwd: (Fwd) Re: [Fwd: teleonomic, teric, etc]] Jerry_LR_Chandler
- [Fwd: teleonomic, teric, etc] Bruce Edmonds
- New papers available on World-Wide Web as "brain-like" system Francis Heylighen
- Hans-Cees Speels's memetics paper is online [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: Dr. Ben Cullen (fwd) E. Andres Garcia
- Arborescent design of systems? [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- New member: Justin Arbuckle Cliff Joslyn
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- Re: Dr. Ben Cullen (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- Membership form and questionnaire, TG02 Felix Geyer
- Re: Society for Chaos Theory in Psychology ... Life Sciences MikeStTA@AOL.COM
- Book on "Evolutionary change in hierarchical systems" [fwd] Francis Heylighen
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- Dr. Ben Cullen (fwd) E. Andres Garcia
- Program Symposium "Theories & Metaphors of Cyberspace" Francis Heylighen
- Newsletter TG02, second try at transmission Felix Geyer
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- happy new year and stuff Bruce Edmonds
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- System Dynamics [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- help - reference on "practical" computational limits! Bruce Edmonds
- Re: "X-Eccles List" Bruce Edmonds
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- ASC CFP, Urbino, Italy, update [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- New member: Dan Kennedy Cliff Joslyn
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- History of Meta-System Transition [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Is there a problem with Prncyb-L? Catharina Kennedy
- Is there a problem with Prncyb-L? Catharina Kennedy
- Test message Francis Heylighen
- hardware and software and computers Jeff Prideaux
- (Its gone very quiet!) the www archive is back but ... Bruce Edmonds
- FW: this is just a test. Luis Rocha
- Hardware and Software Bruce Edmonds
- The WWW archive of PRNCYB-L is down... Bruce Edmonds
- Randomness and material grounding Bruce Edmonds
- this is just a test. Luis Rocha
- Back to normal, thanks! Cliff Joslyn
- what is the generation of meaning?/ kampis Bruce Edmonds
- more on reading frames and Kampis Jeff Prideaux
- some more clarification on reading frames Jeff Prideaux
- reading frames (biology and computers) Jeff Prideaux
- more on reading frames and computers Jeff Prideaux
- Back from vacation: another reference DON MIKULECKY
- Objectives of PCP ? Bruce Buchanan
- Software Reading frames Bruce Edmonds
- more on reading frames and computers and biology Jeff Prideaux
- New member: Peter Harris Cliff Joslyn
- on the ccai issue/ reading frame by kampis II Bruce Edmonds
- Kampis and reading Frames Jeff Prideaux
- more on Kampis and reading frames Jeff Prideaux
- New member: Jeff Torstenson Cliff Joslyn
- on the ccai issue/ reading frame by kampis Bruce Edmonds
- (Fwd) on the ccai issue/ reading frame by kampis Bruce Edmonds
- Systems Science Conference (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- Recursion (?), time & choice Bruce Buchanan
- ccai issue/ reading frame... Jeff Prideaux
- (Fwd) on the ccai issue/ reading frame by kampis Cliff Joslyn
- Ontological status of relational properties Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Hierarchy, etc. Catharina Kennedy
- jumping out of the system Jeff Prideaux
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- Post from Rocha on SOC Cliff Joslyn
- a modest proposal DON MIKULECKY
- Formats for electronic papers Bruce Edmonds
- Re: hierarchy etc Cliff Joslyn
- Re: hierarchy etc Cliff Joslyn
- Post from Luis Rocha: CCAI issue Cliff Joslyn
- reference? DON MIKULECKY
- Re: hierarchy etc Cliff Joslyn
- Cliff: HE WANTS TO JOIN...please help! DON MIKULECKY
- Re: Hierarchies, recursion.../context etc Bruce Edmonds
- jumping out of the system Jeff Prideaux
- New member: Jerry Chandler Cliff Joslyn
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- Re. Hierarchies, recursion... Catharina Kennedy
- New member: Rainer Blome Cliff Joslyn
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- comments on SOC and constructivism Jeff Prideaux
- Formal Systems Bruce Edmonds
- NEW: DEBONO - Discussions of Lateral Thinking (fwd) Bruce Edmonds
- Re: More 2nd order Cybernetics Bruce Buchanan
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- second order cybernetics Jeff Prideaux
- CFP: AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR CYBERNETICS, Urbino, Italy [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: Argument on list and pages (was Re: Integrating PRNCYB-L w Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Argument on list and pages (was Re: Integrating PRNCYB-L w Cliff Joslyn
- Overlay Hypertext for WWW Collaboration Laurence J. Victor
- Re. Hierarchies, recursion... Boris G Freesman, Q.C.
- getting on the list problems (for Cliff) Jeff Prideaux
- PCP and 2nd order cybernetics Francis Heylighen
- comments about the PCP home page Jeff Prideaux
- Re: Argument on list and pages (was Re: Integrating PRNCYB-L w Bruce Edmonds
- HTML archive of PRNCYB-L list Bruce Edmonds
- the reference I promised....space-time and two valued logic (not) DON MIKULECKY
- Re: Argument on list and pages (was Re: Integrating PRNCYB-L DON MIKULECKY
- Re: Argument on list and pages (was Re: Integrating PRNCYB-L (no name)
- Argument on list and pages (was Re: Integrating PRNCYB-L with Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Simultaneity Catharina Kennedy
- New Mailing list on Context Bruce Edmonds
- book recommendation pepper mark r
- Re: Simultaneity DON MIKULECKY
- cybernetics ala W. Ross Ashby (1956) DON MIKULECKY
- Re: A question for all! (a quick aside) DON MIKULECKY
- Re: A question for all! (a quick aside) Chris Miles
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- A-Life as Self-referential TMs Bruce Edmonds
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- AAnother Archive Test Bruce Edmonds
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- long post on objectivity Gerhard Werner
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- OK, I give up ... Bruce Edmonds
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- A question for all! DON MIKULECKY
- Rosen on reductionism DON MIKULECKY
- objectivity, complexity, systems science ala Rosen DON MIKULECKY
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- Quotes from me - NOT! Bruce Edmonds
- Too many Bruces! Bruce Edmonds
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- Re: perception, objectivity, etc. Bruce Buchanan
- perception, objectivity, infinite regresses, etc. Jeff Prideaux
- machine intelligence Jeff Prideaux
- Re: Testing PRNCYB-L Cliff Joslyn
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- Re: infinity, self-reference etc... Bruce Buchanan
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- Re: requisite variety/... systems concepts Francis Heylighen
- S.Beer in Chile JWELTON
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- Information transfer without energy transfer Francis Heylighen
- Re: requisite variety/... systems concepts MikeStTA@AOL.COM
- infinity, self-reference and infinite regresses Jeff Prideaux
- Re: Cybernetics of Cybernetics Laurence J. Victor
- Re: How not to define systems concepts (fwd) (no name)
- Re: How not to define systems concepts (fwd) Francis Heylighen
- Re: Fitness and the meaning of life [fwd from H. Speel] Francis Heylighen
- Re: test/ignore! Bruce Edmonds
- Unsubscribe Thad A. Brown
- Re: Fitness and the meaning of life [fwd from B. Martens] DON MIKULECKY
- Re: Fitness and the meaning of life [fwd from B. Martens] Francis Heylighen
- top-down vs. bottom-up Jeff Prideaux
- can natural systems themselves be complex? Jeff Prideaux
- what exactly are the encoding and decoding arms? Jeff Prideaux
- Re: concepts Onar Aam
- HTML archive of PRNCYB-L list Bruce Edmonds
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- where is the complexity? Jeff Prideaux
- PCP paarticipation & subscription pepper mark r
- New member: Mark Pepper Cliff Joslyn
- Testing PRNCYB-L Francis Heylighen
- Recent PRNCYB-L problems Cliff Joslyn
- How others see Principia Cybernetica Web Francis Heylighen
- How not to define systems concepts Francis Heylighen
- CFP: IMAGES AND REALITY [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Increasing Fitness Francis Heylighen
- Images and Reality Conference Laszlo Ropolyi
- objectivity Jeff Prideaux
- Kampis on autopoiesis DON MIKULECKY
- system glitches....14 messages which were sent...returned DON MIKULECKY
- testing/ please ignore Bruce Edmonds
- truth and other properties Jeff Prideaux
- Kampis on Church-Turing thesis DON MIKULECKY
- Mathematical and Absolute truth Bruce Edmonds
- complexity...what exaclty is complex here? Jeff Prideaux
- The Church-Turing thesis Bruce Edmonds
- Re: Truth, possibilities, life and computation DON MIKULECKY
- Re: Truth, possibilities, life and computation Bruce Edmonds
- Re: posibilities DON MIKULECKY
- Re: posibilities Jeff Prideaux
- Truth, possibilities, life and computation ! Bruce Edmonds
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- computer models are not closed Onar Aam
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- Downward causation Francis Heylighen
- Re: Closed vs. Open Environments Bruce Buchanan
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- shorter... Luis Rocha
- New Address Luis Rocha
- Rejected posting to PRNCYB-L@BINGVMB Bruce Edmonds
- test/ignore Bruce Edmonds
- ecosystem autopoiese/Nest of self- concepts Bruce Edmonds
- (Fwd) Re: sets/ autopoise, self-....... Bruce Edmonds
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- Identification of systems (was Re: terms) Cliff Joslyn
- Re: parts Cliff Joslyn
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- New Book by Holland on Complexity Francis Heylighen
- Scoolon LIFE STRATEGIES: FROM REFLEX TO COGNITION [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- oops Luis Rocha
- CC-AI info Luis Rocha
- more quotes Jeff Prideaux
- Final Call for Papers: Theories and Metaphors of Cyberspace Francis Heylighen
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- New member: E Andres Garcia Cliff Joslyn
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- PCP list E. A Garcia
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- terms Jeff Prideaux
- BISCA-95 Roberto Poli
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- do cells need to "train"? Onar Aam
- friction and dissipative structures Onar Aam
- viruses and computers Jeff Prideaux
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- Can computers be self-producing? Jeff Prideaux
- system foul-up DON MIKULECKY
- reference to books Onar Aam
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- New member: Morton Winston Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Morton Winston Cliff Joslyn
- Re: sets/ autopoise, self-....... Cliff Joslyn
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- Systems Theory (was Re: self-reference) Cliff Joslyn
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- Meaning in Formal Systems (was Final cause and software-life) Cliff Joslyn
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- SYNTHESIS on self-production etc. discussion Cliff Joslyn
- SYNTHESIS on self-production etc. discussion Cliff Joslyn
- Emergence Onar Aam
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- Re: (Fwd) Re: comments on whether "self-reproducing" is a subset Jeff Prideaux
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- death organizing life Onar Aam
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- Re: sets - and metaphysics Bruce Buchanan
- Re: self reference Jeff Prideaux
- more on self-reference Luis Rocha
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- self-reference in autopoiesis Onar Aam
- self-reference in autopoiesis Onar Aam
- self-reference Jeff Prideaux
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- comments on whether "self-reproducing" is a subset of Jeff Prideaux
- comments on whether "self-reproducing" is a subset of Jeff Prideaux
- Re: sets/ autopoise, self-....... Onar Aam
- Re: sets/ autopoise, self-....... Onar Aam
- Self-organization Onar Aam
- Self-organization Onar Aam
- references to books Onar Aam
- references to books Onar Aam
- While I'm off for two weeks ... Bruce Edmonds
- While I'm off for two weeks ... Bruce Edmonds
- Final cause and software-life Bruce Edmonds
- Re: sets/ autopoise, self-....... Bruce Edmonds
- final cause and "closed to efficient cause" Jeff Prideaux
- reference on Paul Aczel and hypersets Jeff Prideaux
- Returned mail: Host unknown (fwd) Mort Winston
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- Test message from joslyn@bingsuns Cliff Joslyn
- Metabolism/repair (mr) systems. DON MIKULECKY
- final cause Jeff Prideaux
- sets Jeff Prideaux
- network problem DON MIKULECKY
- Could computer system become self-producing? Bruce Edmonds
- Paradoxes Bruce Edmonds
- replication - self-reproduction - autopoiesis Onar Aam
- question on dissipative systems Jeff Prideaux
- Announcing the Post-Human Manifesto (fwd) Francis Heylighen
- Introducing myself Boris G Freesman, Q.C.
- Hierarchies, recursion... Boris G Freesman, Q.C.
- Test Boris G Freesman, Q.C.
- Forwards from Hans, style etc. Bruce Edmonds
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- Test again to PRNCYB-L Cliff Joslyn
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- Terms: self-producing, self-reproducing etc... Bruce Edmonds
- Re: self producing Onar Aam
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- New member: Dr. Robert D. Solomon Cliff Joslyn
- Re: self producing MikeStTA@AOL.COM
- (Fwd) Call for Papers: Mad Science Bruce Edmonds
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- Re: Cziko's book on universal selection theory now available (no name)
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- New member: Michael Lash Cliff Joslyn
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- Sorry that quote was from Onar not Jeff! Bruce Edmonds
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- References on Evolution (fwd from H.C. Speel) Francis Heylighen
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- Cziko's book on universal selection theory now available [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- (no subject) Christopher M Robinson
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- Burl Grey on PCP [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- (no subject) Boris G Freesman, Q.C.
- Legacy Systems and Functional Cyborgization, draft 0.81 Alexander Chislenko
- New Book: the Major Transitions in Evolution Francis Heylighen
- More "classic books" list [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- American Society for Cybernetics Conference in Italy [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Boris G Freesman on PCP [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- (Fwd) Preliminary Program (fwd) Bruce Edmonds
- Andres Garcia on the Einstein meets Magritte congress [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Gary Cziko and Perceptual Control Systems on the Web Francis Heylighen
- Memes and The Social Dilemmas [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- subscribe to PCP mail list MikeStTA@aol.com
- category theory Jeff Prideaux
- thoughts on complexity Arno L. Goudsmit
- books Jeff Prideaux
- Belated post from Peter Cariani on complexity discussion Cliff Joslyn
- Ted Nelson in Wired Cliff Joslyn
- Thoughts about complexity discussion Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Michael Doerrschuck Cliff Joslyn
- New member: Chris Miles Cliff Joslyn
- New member: David Keirsey Cliff Joslyn
- Conference on Human Action and Causality [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: Subscription to PRNCYB-L Michael Doerrschuck
- Which"classic books" would you recommend? Francis Heylighen
- HTML archive of PRNCYB-L list Bruce Edmonds
- PS. about measuring complexity... Bruce Edmonds
- My and Rosen's "complexity" Bruce Edmonds
- Bruce Edmond's definition of complexity. DON MIKULECKY
- Subscription to PRNCYB-L Chris Miles
- measuring complexity Jeff Prideaux
- Another installment forwarded as requested. DON MIKULECKY
- This contains part of my reply...Hans-Cees asked me to forward DON MIKULECKY
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- Further comments on complexity DON MIKULECKY
- trying to respond and keep the discussion alive DON MIKULECKY
- Good news about PCP funding Francis Heylighen
- Complexity seems complicated! DON MIKULECKY
- Re: Good news about PCP funding Jixuan Hu
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- PCP Symposium Report by Bernard Scott [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Discussion on the "What is Complexity? ..." paper Bruce Edmonds
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- Re: Waves are viruses? Onar Aam
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- Report on French Society for Theoretical Biology Annual Meeting DON MIKULECKY
- Follow-up to "Evolution of Complexity" Symposium Francis Heylighen
- Reflections in Hyperspace Onar Aam
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- PRNCYB-L (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
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- hyperset reference Onar Aam
- hyperset reference Onar Aam
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- joining pcp list (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- more hyper-sets Jeff Prideaux
- Re: hyper-sets Onar Aam
- PRNCYB-L mailing list Paul McClure
- Waves are viruses? Onar Aam
- hyper-sets Jeff Prideaux
- Re: subjective and objective Onar Aam
- Re: subjective and objective Onar Aam
- subjective and objective Jeff Prideaux
- The structure of social consciousness Onar Aam
- Re: feedback wanted Onar Aam
- Re: Feedback Wanted Onar Aam
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- Re: Feedback Wanted (by Onar) Bruce Buchanan
- feedback wanted Jeff Prideaux
- Rosen and observables (references) Jeff Prideaux
- rosen on observables Arno L. Goudsmit
- Feedback Wanted Onar Aam
- rosen on observables Arno L. Goudsmit
- Re: From Knowledge Animals to Information Beings Onar Aam
- Knowledge Beings Luc Claeys
- Liquid Fractals Onar Aam
- Complexity Jeff Prideaux
- Re: From Knowledge Animals to Information Beings Onar Aam
- Fire Walk With Me! Onar Aam
- complexity Luis Rocha
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- Calming down the Aam-Mickulecky discussion Francis Heylighen
- Re: From Knowledge Animals to Information Beings Onar Aam
- New book by Dutch sociocybernetician Felix Geyer
- Re: From Knowledge Animals to Information Beings Onar Aam
- Re: From Knowledge Animals to Information Beings Onar Aam
- Re: From Knowledge Animals to Information Beings Onar Aam
- New Book: The Challenge of Scientometrics [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: From Knowledge Animals to Information Beings Onar Aam
- Re: From Knowledge Animals to Information Beings Onar Aam
- CFP: Theories and Metaphors of Cyberspace (Vienna, April'96) Francis Heylighen
- From Knowledge Animals to Information Beings Luc Claeys
- Future of the World-Wide Web [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- New Journal: Foundations of Science [fwd] Francis Heylighen
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- Obtaining Creative Instability essays Jay Moynihan
- New: Shadows of the Mind Onar Aam
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- Re: Principle of Asymmetric Transitions on The Principia Francis Heylighen
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- Heylighen & Campbell paper on Social MST's available Francis Heylighen
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- Bibliography: Evolution of Complexity Symposium Francis Heylighen
- Conference: "Knowledge Tools For A Sustainable Civilization" [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Annotations about Control & Creativity [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Annotations about Control & Creativity [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Encyclopedia of World Problems and Human Potential [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- The NK Model Applied to Memetics Onar Aam
- PRINCIPIA INFORMATICA [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Application to participate in the PCP Jay Moynihan
- The Magic Mirrorhouse Onar Aam
- WWW server related to PCP [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Evolution of Complexity Symposium: Prel. Program Francis Heylighen
- PRNCYB-L mailing list subscription (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/PRNCSUB.html (fwd) Cliff Joslyn
- The Evolutionary Structure of the School System Onar Aam
- playing god... Jeff Prideaux
- Behavior of Information [fwd from Luc Claeys] Francis Heylighen
- subsequent levels of complexity [fwd from Luc Claeys] Francis Heylighen
- Re: playing God Cliff Joslyn
- New member: RM Holston Cliff Joslyn
- Re: playing God Cliff Joslyn
- Re: Is the Sun alife Cliff Joslyn
- Retirement of ASP moderator [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Horrid web pages Cliff Joslyn
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- Math Platonism Bruce Buchanan
- Math Platonism Valentin Turchin
- The halting problem Jeff Prideaux
- The halting problem Jeff Prideaux
- Penrose... Jeff Prideaux
- Re: Fitness as Default Onar Aam
- Re: Penrose Onar Aam
- Penrose & mathematical Platonism Marvin McDonald
- Penrose Jeff Prideaux
- Definition of Cybernetics Sarnovsky Jan
- ISBN FOR LIFE ITSELF Jeff Prideaux
- Re: Fitness as Default Onar Aam
- Is the Sun alife Francis Heylighen
- Fitness as Default Onar Aam
- Re: What is life Onar Aam
- the sun Jeff Prideaux
- Re: What is life Onar Aam
- Re: What is life Onar Aam
- Re: emergence & self-org refs Francis Heylighen
- Confusing terms Onar Aam
- Confusing terms Onar Aam
- Rosen math Jeff Prideaux
- Re: What is life Onar Aam
- playing God Jeff Prideaux
- "Virtual Creatures" by Karl Sims Alexander Chislenko
- PRNCYB down? Francis Heylighen
- Apologies on list hiccup Cliff Joslyn
- Last from me on Rosen for a while Cliff Joslyn
- Getting WWW documents by email [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Principia Cybernetica Web much faster! Francis Heylighen
- New member: Steve Keen Cliff Joslyn
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- Deleting 93 logs Cliff Joslyn
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- Comparing Rosen and the Santa Fe institute Jeff Prideaux
- Parasitic evolutionary structures Onar Aam
- Credits to Turchin Francis Heylighen
- Mickulecky, Rosen and Life Francis Heylighen
- What is life Onar Aam
- Rosen and the Santa Fe Institute Jeff Prideaux
- Rosen and the Santa Fe Institute Jeff Prideaux
- Society for Computational Modelling of Creative Processes [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: infinite regresses Onar Aam
- Re: infinite regresses Onar Aam
- infinite regresses Jeff Prideaux
- Essays for review. Alexander Chislenko
- Conference: Knowledge Tools for a Sustainable Civilization [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- New member: Aykutlu Dane Aykutlu Dane
- What sociology needs from cybernetics PAUL STOKES
- PCP Stefan Roth
- Out of Control - the blurring of man-made vs. life Jan Hardenbergh
- infinite regress Jeff Prideaux
- New member: Alexander Chilenko Cliff Joslyn
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- Rosen halts regress? Cliff Joslyn
- Interdiscip. Conf. "Einstein meets Magritte" (Brussels, June'95) Francis Heylighen
- Meeting: CYBERNETICS AND CIRCULARITY [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Rosen Jeff Prideaux
- Re: Rosen, again! Cliff Joslyn
- Rosen again Jeff Prideaux
- Rosen, again! Cliff Joslyn
- What is the meaning of life? [new PCP node] Francis Heylighen
- Conferences on Creativity & Evolutionary Psychology [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- What is Cybernetics? Bruce Buchanan
- Re: Freedom DON MIKULECKY
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- re WWW-SuperBrain and religion and values and more Bruce Buchanan
- papers Vranckx An
- Re: Submissions to PCP / Future Francis Heylighen
- Evolution is unstable (annotation to PCP Web) Francis Heylighen
- Re: WWW-SuperBrain and religion and values Martin L.W. Hall
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- Re: WWW-SuperBrain and religion and values and more [fwd] Martin L.W. Hall
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- Re: WWW-SuperBrain and religion and values DON MIKULECKY
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- Virtual Futures 1995: Call For Papers [FWD] Francis Heylighen
- CFP: PHILOSOPHY ON THE INTERNET [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: WWW-SuperBrain and religion and values Bruce Buchanan
- CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS: MONIST INTERACTIVE ISSUE [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- CONFERENCE ON EPISTEMOLOGY & EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: WWW-SuperBrain and religion and values and more [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Re: WWW-SuperBrain and religion and values and more [fwd] DON MIKULECKY
- Umpleby on Cybernetics used in other disciplines [fwd] Francis Heylighen
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- Principia Cybernetica Web now allows full-text search Francis Heylighen
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- Cybernetics and religion Bruce Buchanan
- Annotations about religion Francis Heylighen
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- Re: From WWW to Super-Brain (new PCP node) Onar Aam
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- Re: From WWW to Super-Brain Francis Heylighen
- I'd like to help Principia Cybernetica Jan Hardenbergh
- Re: From WWW to Super-Brain Bruce Buchanan
- Re: From WWW to Super-Brain Francis Heylighen
- Re: From WWW to Super-Brain JWELTON
- Re: From WWW to Super-Brain Bruce Buchanan
- From WWW to Super-Brain (new PCP node) Francis Heylighen
- From WWW to Super-Brain (new PCP node) Francis Heylighen
- Workshop: Reflection & Meta-Level Architecture in AI [fwd] Francis Heylighen
- Evolutionary pressure shaping men who use computers. Johan Bollen
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