Re: NPR's report on the cosmology conference

Norman K. McPhail (norm@SOCAL.WANET.COM)
Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:00:01 -0700


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In my view, the next step is to consider how our human thought and
understanding do this mapping and interpreting. I think we are prone to use
inappropriate logic or thought modes in our mapping and interpretations of
physics, biology and our human understanding. The distortions that result
are what I call our blind spot.

Rosen's notion that complex systems can't be modeled is just another way of
saying that we need to use more than what I call simple either/or logic to
chart out all these realms. And logic allows us to transcend the constraints
of both physics and biology in our mapping and interpreting. We are all
capable of assimilating and easily understanding multiple views, models and
systems. We just make this impossible when we hog-tie our selves with
either/or logic.

NKM

Don Mikulecky wrote:

> Don Mikulecky adds:
>
> Thanks Alexei!
> In my seminar on measurement,
> http://views.vcu.edu/~mikuleck/courses/measure/sld034.htm (through slide
> 37) I illustrate the way the van der Waals equation can be cast as a
> mapping and interpreted in totally biological terms (genotype, phenotype,
> environmental influences, etc.).
> Respectfully,
> Don Mikulecky
>
> Alexei Sharov wrote:
>
> > Don wrote:
> >
> > >Rosen reminded us of Rashevsky's observation that the laws of
> > >physics are obeyed by all living organisms yet none can be predicted
> > >from those laws. He went further to assert that biology was far
> > >more "general" than physics.
> >
> > I fully support this! Time is a kind of "currency" that organisms
> > can "spend" on various activities. Space repesents organism's
> > freedom to move around. Force represents organism's interaction
> > with individual components of the world, etc. I believe we can
> > reformulate the whole physics in biological terms.
> >
> > -Alexei
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > Alexei Sharov Research Scientist
> > Dept. of Entomology, Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA 24061
> > Tel. (540) 231-7316; FAX (540) 231-9131; e-mail sharov@vt.edu
> > Home page: http://www.gypsymoth.ento.vt.edu/~sharov/alexei.html

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In my view, the next step is to consider how our human thought and understanding do this mapping and interpreting.  I think we are prone to use inappropriate logic or thought modes in our mapping and interpretations of physics, biology and our human understanding.  The distortions that result are what I call our blind spot.

Rosen's notion that complex systems can't be modeled is just another way of saying that we need to use more than what I call simple either/or logic to chart out all these realms.  And logic allows us to transcend the constraints of both physics and biology in our mapping and interpreting.  We are all capable of assimilating and easily understanding multiple views, models and systems.  We just make this impossible when we hog-tie our selves with either/or logic.

NKM

Don Mikulecky wrote:

Don Mikulecky adds:

Thanks Alexei!
In my seminar on measurement,
http://views.v cu.edu/~mikuleck/courses/measure/sld034.htm  (through slide
37) I illustrate the way the van der Waals equation can be cast as a
mapping and interpreted in totally biological terms (genotype, phenotype,
environmental influences, etc.).
Respectfully,
Don Mikulecky

Alexei Sharov wrote:

> Don wrote:
>
> >Rosen reminded us of Rashevsky's observation that the laws of
> >physics are obeyed by all living organisms yet none can be predicted
> >from those laws.  He went further to assert that biology was far
> >more "general" than physics.
>
> I fully support this! Time is a kind of "currency" that organisms
> can "spend" on various activities. Space repesents organism's
> freedom to move around. Force represents organism's interaction
> with individual components of the world, etc. I believe we can
> reformulate the whole physics in biological terms.
>
> -Alexei
> -------------------------------------------------
> Alexei Sharov            & nbsp;            &n bsp;  Research Scientist
> Dept. of Entomology, Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA 24061
> Tel. (540) 231-7316;   FAX (540) 231-9131; e-mail sharov@vt.edu
> Home page: http://www.gypsymot h.ento.vt.edu/~sharov/alexei.html

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