I am in the midst of an undergraduate honors course on "Artificial Intelligence".
We have been discussing things like complexity, objectivity, measurement,
definitions of things like intelligence, etc. This election has provided some of
the clearest and most useful examples I have ever had as a teacher. Furthermore,
my students do *not* see this as some strange thing only important to the US. They
have a global perspective and are discussing it in a global context. It is a pity
that this list can not even seem to be comfortable with a rich topic that
undergraduate students are having a learning bonanza with.
John J Kineman wrote:
> We have gotten some feedback that there is international interest in
> this as an EXAMPLE. As long as we focus on what it is an example of,
> with regard to cybernetics issues, I think we should be OK?? How do
> other's feel about it?
> steve wrote:
> > In support of the "political" discussions here:
> > 1) I'm pretty handy with my own <delete> key.
> > 2) I don't hear nearly this level of sophisticated
> > discussion on any other channel on this topic.
> > 3) The lines are often blurred, with personal
> > opinion providing examples which are then
> > analyzed quite rationally and according to
> > the spirit of the list.
> > In support of Francis:
> > I understand your personal discomfort and
> > discomfort for the rest of the world in listening
> > to the US bicker, even if on this list it is
> > incredibly civilized bickering <grin>.
> > To Norm & others:
> > I'd vote for taking Francis' mail as a gentle
> > reminder or suggestion, not a demand or censorship.
> > I agree that anything like a heavy hand in this
> > would fail. Let's not let this escalate?
> > - Steve
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