John J. Kineman wrote:
> No need to sugar coat it folks, tell us what you REALLY think!
>
> I'm happy to be the third to weigh in with Norm and Don on this, as long as
> we're back to voting rather than discussing. I too have serious
> reservations about this "vision." However, I prefer to operate in the
> middle ground where all ideas have value and it is up to all of us to
> discuss the context of that value.
>
> I have, in fact, written my comments in response to Francis's view and have
> not posted it, having been asked formally in an earlier post by Jerry
> Chandler to cool my jets on making lengthy posts. I have no desire to force
> my views on anyone, but would greatly appreciate discussion. It seemed for
> a while that PCP was a good forum for that. What's the verdict now?
>
> My short answer, ala Jerry's request, can be nothing more than another
> vote. But for what it's worth my vote is this: the vision is lacking in
> broad vision, but may be diagnostic of certain beliefs which may indeed be
> a force to recon with in the present and future. There are other such
> forces (views and trends) that are highly conspicuous by their absence.
>
> At 11:10 AM 1/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >Don Mikulecky seconds the thought!
> >
> >Norman K. McPhail wrote:
> >
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> >> This all star debate between Tom Abel the zero sum fatalist and Francis
> >> Heylighen the closet nazi is a great match up. I can hardly wait for
> >> round two.
> >>
> >> NKM
> >> -
> >
> >I must say that reading as much of that as I could stand makes me wonder if
> >these discussions are anything but a place for folks to vent. I don't see
> >much sign of progess!Respectfully, but sadly,
> >Don Mikulecky
> >
> >
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