I'm happy to be the third to weigh in with Norm and Don on this, as long as
we're back to voting rather than discussing. I too have serious
reservations about this "vision." However, I prefer to operate in the
middle ground where all ideas have value and it is up to all of us to
discuss the context of that value.
I have, in fact, written my comments in response to Francis's view and have
not posted it, having been asked formally in an earlier post by Jerry
Chandler to cool my jets on making lengthy posts. I have no desire to force
my views on anyone, but would greatly appreciate discussion. It seemed for
a while that PCP was a good forum for that. What's the verdict now?
My short answer, ala Jerry's request, can be nothing more than another
vote. But for what it's worth my vote is this: the vision is lacking in
broad vision, but may be diagnostic of certain beliefs which may indeed be
a force to recon with in the present and future. There are other such
forces (views and trends) that are highly conspicuous by their absence.
At 11:10 AM 1/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Don Mikulecky seconds the thought!
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>Norman K. McPhail wrote:
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>> This all star debate between Tom Abel the zero sum fatalist and Francis
>> Heylighen the closet nazi is a great match up. I can hardly wait for
>> round two.
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>I must say that reading as much of that as I could stand makes me wonder if
>these discussions are anything but a place for folks to vent. I don't see
>much sign of progess!Respectfully, but sadly,
>Don Mikulecky
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