Re: NLP and cybernetics (was re - Principia Cybernetica News)

Gavin Ritz (garritz@XTRA.CO.NZ)
Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:25:56 +1300


Laurence.Millar@vuw.ac.nz wrote:

> What is it about NLP that you think warrants the description "cybernetic".
> I can see that the balancing and synchronisation of transmitter and reciever
> that NLP focuses on has some relevance, but I alwyas understood Cybernetics
> to be about self-regulation - and NLP suggests that there is a potential for
> an overseet to consciously intervene in the workings of the dialogue.

Dear LaurenceThe human brain and nervous system is an excellent example of a
cybernetic system. NLP (Neuro Linguistic programming)
Neuro-refers to our thinking, or perception the brain processes and nervous
system which form the basis of any behaviour. It refers to the neurological
processes of sensing-seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, smelling.
Linguistics refers to the language patterns which effect our understanding and
upon which communication is based.
Programming refers to the way we organise and program our thoughts, including
feelings and beliefs, to bring about desired changes in behavior and outcomes.

and using the law of Requisite Variety, this is no different to the Kepner
-Tregoe process used by NASA to problem solve or Situational Leader by Ken
Blanchard, these are just models to explain cause & effect and how to respond so
that a favourable outcome is achieved.
" Cybernetic processes"

NLP is also the study and modeling of physiology & linguistics how each effect
each other. Its about how human beings communicate, verbally & nonverbal.

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> Having written that it seems to me that maybe NLP is an instantiation of a
> viable system with the systems 1,2 and 3* interacting with the environment,
> and the techniques suggested by B&G operating at levels 4 &5

I do not understand what your above paragraph at all.

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> >Are the users aware that NLP Neuro-Linguistic Programming is a cybernetic
> model,
> >created by Bandler & Grinder in the 1970's.
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> Laurence Millar
> PhD student, Communications Studies, Victoria University
>
> "At the stillpoint of the turning world, there the dance is" T S Eliot