Re: Non Physical Experience

Norman K. McPhail (norm@SOCAL.WANET.COM)
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:57:53 -0700

John J. Kineman wrote:
>
> Reply to Norm,
>
> I really like the direction of the latest exchange between you and Don. As
> I suspected we are in full agreement in principle and motive. How to do it
> is trickey and leads to intense discussion. Regarding a focus on
> "understanding human understanding," I think this is the MAIN goal of it
> all. What good will it do to understand nature if we don't, in the process,
> understand ourselves? It's a little like the Biblical saying (I don't
> really push this stuff, it just came up as some anchient wisdom) that goes
> something like: "What does it profit a man to gain the world, and loose his
> life."
>
> At 12:20 PM 7/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >> We seem to really be at a threshold here!
> >
> >> respectfully,
> >> Don
> >
> >I agree. I am very interested to see if you agree that our focus ought
> >to be on understanding human understanding as a means of getting through
> >the remaining barriers and more importantly building the wisdom to use
> >these discoveries constructively.
> >
> >Norm
> >
> >
> -----------------------------------------------
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Thanks John.

I tried to call you friday and left a message. I wanted to talk about
the editing server/program you mentioned. But I also just wanted to say
how much appreciated your lengthy post. I still intend to answer what I
haven't already covered today.

I can't tell you how great it is to be able to throw this stuff back and
forth and actually have people on the other end of the line who not only
understand but match you point for point. (I guess from the above you
know) Today I was supposed to start getting ready for our annual family
cruises. But I spent over the half the day on this because I couldn't
bring myself to do anything else. What Fun.

I've worked on these ideas so long and have been so used to never
getting this level of response that I think I gave up on expecting
anyone to fully understand what I was trying to say. I can also say
that I have gone over this with a number well known very successful
people from all walks of life without being able to communicate the full
depth and breadth of these ideas. Everyone seems to get parts of it,
but this is a new experience for me. It really helps to have your keen
insights and questions to work through. Like Don, I have a sense that
as a group we are going through some big chnages in our understandings.
And I think that all this can make a difference.

Norm