Don Mikulecky wrote:
> Norman K. McPhail wrote:
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> > > > I noted that Alexi Sharov's web site had a lot of interesting stuff on
> > > > this. He calls it biosemiotics.
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> > > > Norm
(refering to Alexi Sharov's homepage)
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> > > I just ran over and read through it. Yes, Pattee's "semantic closure" is
closely related
> > > to our closed loops of efficient cause. This all goes back to the
Theoretical Biology
> > > Center at Buffalo. Rosen and Pattee were there together as was I patee
and I learned
> > > about this kind of closure from Rosen's lectures on relational biology.
For some reason
> > > Rosen and Pattee never really reference each other, yet they talk about
the same issues.
> > > i have never understood why.Don
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> By the way.....just opened my mail....
> In it is a preprint of a paper by Bill Dress at Oak Ridge..let me extract a
few parts....
> "ABSTRACT: The modeling relation and its reformulation to include the semiotic
hierarchy is
> essential for the understanding, control, and successful re-creation of
natural systems. This
> presentation will argue for a careful application of Rosen's modeling
relationship to the
> problems of intelligence and autonomy in natural and artificial systems."
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> "...It will then be a simple identification to show how semiosis maps into
Rosen'ss clear and
> specific ideas of the modeling relation."
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> Talk about coincidence! I haven't heard from this guy in years!
> Hold onto your hat....this is big!
> Don