"Re: "Re: "rosen and life itself."""

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From: Hans-Cees Speel <hanss@zondisk.sepa.tudelft.nl>
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To: Bruce Edmonds pcp <b.edmonds@mmu.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: "Re: "rosen and life itself.""
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I
> > understand that if there is no 1:1 relation between parts and
> > functions, this is thus not analytic [am I right?]. But what does
> > this have to do with synthetic? You can't just multiply
> > structures, can you? How should I interpreted this?
>
> Note: in my answer to this I let the following shorthand exist... a,
> b refer to the protein subunits, and 1, 2, 3, refer to the substrate
> and the two cofactors respectively.
>

> > > The practical result is in the relation of functional
> > > components to materia
> l
> > > parts. A functional component (such as metabolism, repair,
> > > replication in M-R systems) HAS NO 1:1 mapping to the material
> > > parts (biochemistry, anatomy). It depends on them but can not
> > > be preserved if certain ORGANIZATION is destroyed.

> > If this were possible, analytic models
> > > would be equivalent to synthetic models and we'd be talking
> > > about a machine

> > > Further, all synthetic models are analytic models.

> > > There are analytic models which are not systhetic models.

> > this is what I do not understand, apparently this is the case
> > with non-machine models.

Let me see if I understand now. An analytic model is when I can see a
function and describe it. Some analytic models are also synthetic,
meaning that i can find a structure for every function 1:1. If this
is so, I am dealing with a machine.
If this is not the case, i am dealing with something beyond the
machine metaphor, and that could be an organism.

Am I right?

Hans-Cees

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