New member: Czeslaw Mesjasz

Cliff Joslyn (cjoslyn@BINGHAMTON.EDU)
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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:42:53 -0500
To: cjoslyn@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Cliff Joslyn)
From: joslyn@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Cliff Joslyn)
Subject: Re: Finally joining the PRNCYB-L (fwd)

>Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:52:54 +0200 (MET DST)
>From: Czeslaw Mesjasz <mesjaszc@ae.krakow.pl>
>X-Sender: mesjaszc@janek
>To: Cliff Joslyn <cjoslyn@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu>
>Cc: Cliff Joslyn <joslyn@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>,
> Francis Heylighen <fheyligh@vnet3.vub.ac.be>
>Subject: Re: Finally joining the PRNCYB-L (fwd)
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>Dear Cliff,
>
>After some mistakes I made with your address I asked Francis how could I
>join the PRNCYB-L. Hes sent me some guidanec and the following form I enclose.
>
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> In order to subscribe to the PRNCYB-L mailing list, please fill in the
> following form and mail it to Cliff Joslyn at
> cjoslyn@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu.
>
> Thank you for your patience in allowing a few days or a week to be
>added to the mailing list.
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>Although my access to the Web is still more passive - our Academy is
>just preparing its homepage (to be ready in a few weeks) yet I hope that
>from time to time I could contribute something to the "Principia
>Cybernetica" project list.
>
>I am planning to intensify my work on two projects associated directly
>with the "Principia Cybernetica":
>
>1. "Stability, Turbulence, or Chaos?: Systems Analogies and Metaphors in
>the Language of Theory and Practice of International Relations Studies"
>
>The project will also deal with relate areas, i.e. organization theory,
>international political economy, security studies
>
>2. "Interpretations of Systems Complexity in the Theory of Social
>Organization: An Overview"
>
>I will present more comments later on both of them. Hopefully they will
>yield several papers, and perhaps, a book.
>
>
>Enclosed, please find required information:
>##############################################################################
>
>Name: Mesjasz Czeslaw, Ph.D.(Organization and Management - Economics)
>(M. Sc. Physics; M.A. in Organization and Management)
>Email address: mesjaszc@ae.krakow.pl
>URL of home page: to be elaborated later
>Postal address:
>Academy of Economics, 31-510 Krakow, ul. Rakowicka 27, Poland
>Phone: +48-12-16-76-19; Fax: +48-12-12-87-81
>Affiliations:
>1. Management Process Chair, Academy of Economics, Krakow, Poland
>2. Jagiellonian Business School, Jagiellonian UNiversity, Krakow,
>Poland
>
>How did you hear about PCP?
>
>Directly from Francis Heyglighen whom I met for the first time at the
>EMCSR'88 in Vienna. Later we contacted from time to time but my other
>committments and stays abraod did not allow me to join the "Principia
>Cybernetica" in the cyberspace.
>
>I expect that after finishing some of my business and practice-oriented
>projects I have to accomplish I will have more time for my systems
>studies which I have been conducting since the mid-1980s.
>
>Please take at least one page to describe your work
>and how it might relate to PCP:
>
>Since the early 1980s I have been interested in applications of systems
>approach and cybernetics in management. It was a theoretical area very
>much recognized in that time Poland. I also learned that some specialists
>in systems theory, e.g. Kenneth Boulding or Anatol Rapoport were at the same
>time interested in peace and conflict studies and in international relations
>theory.
>
>In my research I tried to merge those three domains: systems theory &
>cybernetics, organization theory and something which I call "more
>than hobby but less than profession", i.e. peace and conflict studies,
>international security studies, international relations studies.
>
>In all those areas I am interested how models, analogies and metaphors
>derived from braodly defined "systems thinking" are used as descriptive,
>explanatory and sometimes, predictive instruments.
>
>Although my other committemnts created some obstacles for my systems
>research, which is the case for many "systems specialist", I continuously
>yet somehow slower pursued my research. It resulted in several papers
>presented at international conferences and published in conference materials,
>or in "Cybernetics and Systems", "Systems Science", "Journal of Peace
>Research" - a monograph paper on applications of systems modelling in peace
>and conflict studies with the Foreword prepared by Anatol Rapoport, or in the
>materials of the SWIIS Group (Supplementary Ways for Improving International
>Stability).
>
>My long lasting studies in the field, and especially investigation into
>the links between broadly defined "system thinking" and theory of social
>organization of various scale allow me to draw some conclusions which I
>have recently presented at several conferences.
>
>I am somehow very critical to the "systems approach" which in many cases
>is a very confused idea. Due to my knowledge of literature, institutions
>and people dealing with those issues I can easily support my critics with
>necessary arguments.
>
>On the other hand, however, I believe that there is a great need, at
>least in the theory of social organization, to revive the applications of
>systems approach. It must be done at a different, more competent level.
>
>I have some ideas how to do that and I believe that in my future
>publications and, perhaps, also in my contribution to the "Principia"
>project I will present them in a more detailed way.
>
>##########################################################################
>
>I hope it would suffice. Please, let me know if you had any questions or
>suggestions.
>
>Best regards, Czeslaw Mesjasz
>
>Dr Czeslaw Mesjasz
>Academy of Economics
>31-510 Krakow
>ul. Rakowicka 27
>Poland
>Tel: +48-12-16-71-619; Fax: +48-12-12-87-81
>

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