Let me repeat myself..
> >self-reproducing is a subset of self-producing (autopoiesis)
This is not true, unitl proven differently I assume that there are
systems that are not selfproducing but are self-reproducing
[hypercycles].
> >self-reproducing is a subset of replicating
This is true,
> >self-producing is a subset of self-organized
This is true
> >dissipative structures is a subset of the self-organized
Is this not the other way around?
> >autopoiesis (self-production) is a subset of dissipative structures.
true
If my correction are right [are they?] the following will be
wrong...:-(
>
> OK, graph this out (abbreviating as obvious):
>
> Repl.
> |
> V
> ---> SP -> SR
> |
> SO
> |
> ---> Diss -> Autop.
>
> which begs a lot of questions:
>
> *) what's the relation between dissipative and self-producing? Are they
> disjoint?
Selfproducing systems are always dissipative
>
> *) Similarly for autopoeitic and self-referential.
This one I am not sure about, I think that autopoietic systems are
always self-referential
>
> *) What is both replicative and NOT self-organizing?
A system that is replicated by another system is [virus]
>
> *) Etc.
If you could spell out the etc that would be usefull..
Hope our messages donot cross too much.....
Have a nice weekend, I am going home!
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