Systems Theory (was Re: self-reference)

Cliff Joslyn (joslyn@KONG.GSFC.NASA.GOV)
Tue, 29 Aug 1995 17:05:49 -0500


>This is why I'm so excited about this discussion group. What we are
>talking about here is the emergence of a new science.

What we are talking about here is a slightly-old science called,
alternately, Systems Science, Cybernetics, or Systems Theory. It was
founded in the late forties by all the people we know. M+V and Rosen are
some of the most prominent systems theorists of the second or third
generation, and indeed some of the most prominent systems theorists alive
today. It is not surprising that there is convergence between M+V and
Rosen. Rather, it should be surprising that there was DIVERGENCE between
Ashby, Wiener, and von Bertalanffy.

Yes, folks, it's true: it's all one thing.

Everything is connected to everything else.

The whole is more than the sum of the parts.

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