Conversation

Luis Rocha (ba05099@BINGSUNS.CC.BINGHAMTON.EDU)
Wed, 24 May 1995 15:04:31 -0400


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Subject: Conversation
To: PRNCYB-L@BINGVMB.YOUR.DOMAIN.NAME
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 15:02:21 -0400 (EDT)
In-Reply-To: <199505241828.OAA23613@bingnfs1.cc.binghamton.edu> from "Onar Aam"
at May 24, 95 08:21:53 pm
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Onar:
>
> I'm perfectly aware that my animation of language ignite some people
> which feel that their culture is being messed with. That's human. We defend
what
> we cherish. I feel that I am a very lucky man that is born with the ability to
> surf on language and I want to share that with people who dare to follow. Very
> many people get dizzy from the joyride, and I respect that. It would however
be
> naive of me to expect these people to respect my play with their language.

The problem is that this group is supposedly aiming at reaching
agreement on certain topics. PCP was created to create a common
language for systems science and cybernetics so that people interested
in these topics can CONVERSATE. You speak of memes and symbols, yet
you fail to understand that to be of any use they must be understood
by all parties involved in a conversation. Isolated symbols have no
survival value. Quite frankly, I can do without people dumping their
grand theories of everything on the net, without any attempt to couple those to
existing, established, theories. Unfortunately, Systems Research and
cybernetics is crowded with such grand schemes of nothing, and it is what
gives the field a bad name (e.g. the resemblance syndrome accurately
depicted in the last Scientific American article "From Complexity to
Perplexity").

These theories may offer a tremendous joyride, but hey, when it comes
to linguistic joyrides I'd rather check the poetry section of my local
Barnes and Noble. Here we want to conversate, not download megabytes
and megabytes of symbols with very little referents. OK? It's just too
much information, dude.

Cheers,
Luis Rocha