subsequent levels of complexity [fwd from Luc Claeys]

Francis Heylighen (fheyligh@VNET3.VUB.AC.BE)
Thu, 6 Apr 1995 11:49:12 +0100


I received the following reaction on parts of the "Notes on PCP" from Luc
Claeys. I expet him to sooner or later join PRNCYB-L, but in the meantime I
already forward his impressions.

Francis

>An Evolutionary Philosophy
>__________________________________________________________________________
>We see a philosophical system as a clearly thought out and well-formulated,
>global "world view" (Weltanschauung), integrating the different domains of
>knowledge and experience. It should provide an answer to the basic
>questions: "Who am I? Where do I come from? Where am I going to?". The
>proposed philosophy is based on the process of evolution which generates
>subsequent levels of complexity out of more simple components, through the
>trial-and-error mechanism of variation and selective retention. It
>includes:

The observation of the "subsequent levels of complexity" is subjective.
When changing our focus from one level to another, we find each time a
similar complexity. This is probably general.

Let us take a walk to a point of view where this equality in complexity
can be observed more easily.

When studying the structure of a company, the human beings which form
the components of the structure can be classified in a few categories
and seem to have a behavior which is simple compared to the organism
which is the company.
However, from the point of view of an employee, the structure of an
individual being seems to be a lot more complex than the structure of
a company.

In the example above, the distance between the employee and the
company is small. When bridging larger distances, the mechanism of
time independence comes into play. Let's walk on...

Let us descend into the world of molecules, atoms and sub-atomic
particles. Before we really go down there, we observe these worlds
from where we are. One of the first differences we notice is the
symmetry of time. In the molecular world, events seem to be more
symmetrical in time than in our world, and if we descend to the atomic
and sub-atomic world, all events seem to be perfectly symmetrical in
time (reversible).
When really going there we notice a time and a space as we are used to.
But because of the change in time (another time axis),
the meter (unit of length) and the clock we brought with us
cannot longer be used to compare things. At first the relation between
our time and the time in the world where we have arrived becomes
fuzzy. When descending further, even the direction gets lost, and they
become completely independent. Thus the direction past versus future
in these worlds has no correspondence anymore with the time direction
in the world we come from. As a consequence of this drastic change of
the time axis, our meter and clock have become completely useless.
Therefore when being there, we have no idea whether things
are larger or smaller there, whether we are somewhere in our past or
in our future. Whether the world there is a consequence of the
evolution in our home world or an origin of the evolution of our home
world.
Let's walk on before we become homesick...
To go on in the same direction we descend in the worlds which seem the
components of the world there. on and on... until we arrive just where
we left off.
When looking one step back, we seem to descend from planetary level to
human level. After this journey, we can ask the question "Where did
we the transition from very large to very big?"
The answer is in the existance of many different worlds with different
times. Depending on the point of view (subjective), one world seem to
be the consequence of a level of stability which is attained in the
world which forms the components of the world of the observer.
In "reality" (what am I talking about?) there is a mutual interaction
between these worlds. Remember, when we where at the back side, there
was no way to say whether the world in which we where was an origin or
a consequence of our home world.
>From that point of view, it seems logic that there are no "subsequent
levels of complexity"

In the mean time, it has become dark, I see the stars and I wonder
whether the stars are the origin or the consequence of the atoms which
form them?

And if the mutual dependency is so complete, it is logic that all
levels do have just the same complexity.

Vriendelijke Groeten,

Luc

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Luc Claeys claeys@innet.be
Antwerpen (Wilrijk) Belgium.

In search of new points of view
for better understanding of Nature.
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