Norm,
You are assuming I meant that the modeling relation is only a good descriptor for human
thought whereas I see it in terms of ALL anticipatory systems.
Don
"Norman K. McPhail" wrote:
> Don:
>
> Is understanding confined only to our species? Can we imagine a form of understanding
> that could occur without requiring any thinking? Or can a chimp, dog or parrot
> understand human language?
>
> Can understanding take place without a brain? Can a sperm do its job without some form
> of understanding what that job is? Does a jellyfish swim without understanding how to
> swim?
>
> Can understanding exist separate and apart from life? Can a rock respond to gravity,
> heat, light and the blows of another rock without having a form of understanding?
>
> Norm
>
> Don Mikulecky wrote:
>
> > Norm,
> > I suggest that "thinking" is a process and "understanding" an outcome of that
> > process. With respect to the modeling relation, thinking is making use of the MR
> > while "understanding" is the result having decided (subjectivly) that the MR
> > commutes.
> > Respectfully,
> > Don
> >
> > "Norman K. McPhail" wrote:
> >
> > > I like to distinguish between thinking and understanding. Is there anything to be
> > > gained from substituting "understanding" for "thinking" in your sentence?
> > >
> > > I may be "understanding" something, and my
> > > dog, and my fish, and I don't know about my earwig, but my sourdough
> > > starter, and the water swirling in my toilet bowl, and my glass of iced
> > > tea, are NOT.
> > >
> > > NKM
> > >
> > > Cliff Joslyn wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Parsimony, on the other hand, argues EXACTLY to not extend terminology
> > > > beyond its appropriate boundaries. I may be "thinking" something, and my
> > > > dog, and my fish, and I don't know about my earwig, but my sourdough
> > > > starter, and the water swirling in my toilet bowl, and my glass of iced
> > > > tea, are NOT.
> > > >
> > >
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> > > Posting to pcp-discuss@lanl.gov from "Norman K. McPhail" <norm@socal.wanet.com>
> >
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> > Posting to pcp-discuss@lanl.gov from Don Mikulecky <mikuleck@hsc.vcu.edu>
>
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> Posting to pcp-discuss@lanl.gov from "Norman K. McPhail" <norm@socal.wanet.com>
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